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		<title>By: Thewinator</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-38027</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an excellent reminder why the USA disgusts me.

I was the &#039;pro-life&#039; arguments here and well I don&#039;t care how you turn it but fact remains that a child won&#039;t be very conscious of their own actions until after PUBERTY, abortion when it&#039;s 2 weeks or killing it when it&#039;s 1 year old, the child won&#039;t realize what&#039;s going on and therefore I say it&#039;s not &#039;wrong&#039;.
It&#039;s obvious that people want to stand up for something that doesn&#039;t have the tools to defend itself against the practice. But hey, isn&#039;t that what parents are for? Making the right decisions for children that can&#039;t yet? Teaching them, taking care for them?
If a mother is too young to handle it, has no finances to back it up, got pregnant because of a destructive relationship, or whatever situation it may be that will mean a bad childhood for the fetus, I think that it&#039;s the right thing for the child to have an abortion.
Look around at all the people that have had poor childhoods. Abusive, divorce, teenage moms that had no choice but to send them to daycares, how much pain does that amount to in this world? And if you&#039;re about to say, well there&#039;s good help for those people think again. Particularly in the USA professional help is not only extremely poor, it&#039;s also very commercial. It costs you a truckload of money and you hardly get anything for it except for some lame diagnoses the insurance companies like to hear (while a good and knowledgeable friend can help you more and often for free).
Seriously have you witnessed what shit people go through as a result of a bad childhood? It&#039;ll break your heart. And THAT is something you don&#039;t wish for your fetus. That is why there is abortion. I hope for the love of God that a group of narrow minded men aren&#039;t going to be suppressing this right.

Another thing, if a woman is simply being stupid and makes the choice for an abortion, would they have been smart enough to raise a child anyway? And if women are smart and still chose for an abortion because of the bad circumstance, then doesn&#039;t that save her to be child a lot of agony?

Protecting something that can&#039;t protect itself is fine, so long you don&#039;t come up with worse solutions then the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent reminder why the USA disgusts me.</p>
<p>I was the &#8216;pro-life&#8217; arguments here and well I don&#8217;t care how you turn it but fact remains that a child won&#8217;t be very conscious of their own actions until after PUBERTY, abortion when it&#8217;s 2 weeks or killing it when it&#8217;s 1 year old, the child won&#8217;t realize what&#8217;s going on and therefore I say it&#8217;s not &#8216;wrong&#8217;.<br />
It&#8217;s obvious that people want to stand up for something that doesn&#8217;t have the tools to defend itself against the practice. But hey, isn&#8217;t that what parents are for? Making the right decisions for children that can&#8217;t yet? Teaching them, taking care for them?<br />
If a mother is too young to handle it, has no finances to back it up, got pregnant because of a destructive relationship, or whatever situation it may be that will mean a bad childhood for the fetus, I think that it&#8217;s the right thing for the child to have an abortion.<br />
Look around at all the people that have had poor childhoods. Abusive, divorce, teenage moms that had no choice but to send them to daycares, how much pain does that amount to in this world? And if you&#8217;re about to say, well there&#8217;s good help for those people think again. Particularly in the USA professional help is not only extremely poor, it&#8217;s also very commercial. It costs you a truckload of money and you hardly get anything for it except for some lame diagnoses the insurance companies like to hear (while a good and knowledgeable friend can help you more and often for free).<br />
Seriously have you witnessed what shit people go through as a result of a bad childhood? It&#8217;ll break your heart. And THAT is something you don&#8217;t wish for your fetus. That is why there is abortion. I hope for the love of God that a group of narrow minded men aren&#8217;t going to be suppressing this right.</p>
<p>Another thing, if a woman is simply being stupid and makes the choice for an abortion, would they have been smart enough to raise a child anyway? And if women are smart and still chose for an abortion because of the bad circumstance, then doesn&#8217;t that save her to be child a lot of agony?</p>
<p>Protecting something that can&#8217;t protect itself is fine, so long you don&#8217;t come up with worse solutions then the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Turtlesarefunny</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-37737</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It isn&#039;t my job to supply a baby to a infertile couple. I&#039;m not a charity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t my job to supply a baby to a infertile couple. I&#8217;m not a charity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Ost</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-37639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Ost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[u00a0How about you read the article before you tell me to do my homework, Gman? If you did, you would have read the part that explains that Planned Parenthood does NOT receive federal dollars for abortion. The Hyde Amendment, a federal law, has banned it for decades. It is pure rhetoric from conservatives that taxpayer dollars go to abortions. They don&#039;t, period, end of story. They just factually, provably do not. It&#039;s a myth. Go do YOUR homework.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u00a0How about you read the article before you tell me to do my homework, Gman? If you did, you would have read the part that explains that Planned Parenthood does NOT receive federal dollars for abortion. The Hyde Amendment, a federal law, has banned it for decades. It is pure rhetoric from conservatives that taxpayer dollars go to abortions. They don&#8217;t, period, end of story. They just factually, provably do not. It&#8217;s a myth. Go do YOUR homework.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman2010</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-37636</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[u00a0Where you been Sara...planned parenthood gets MILLIONS from Tax payers to kill baby&#039;s! Do your home work before you comment !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u00a0Where you been Sara&#8230;planned parenthood gets MILLIONS from Tax payers to kill baby&#8217;s! Do your home work before you comment !</p>
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		<title>By: Willie D</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-37635</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[u00a0Killing baby&#039;s is nothing like keeping people from voting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u00a0Killing baby&#8217;s is nothing like keeping people from voting!</p>
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		<title>By: Abigail Wick's Green Solutions for the Failed Drug War in the U.S. &#124; elephant journal</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-36990</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abigail Wick's Green Solutions for the Failed Drug War in the U.S. &#124; elephant journal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] we heard anything about cutting drug war funds? Why is it we talk about getting rid of NPR, PBS, Planned Parenthood, the NEA, and food stamps before calling to attention the exponentially more money wasted on drug [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] we heard anything about cutting drug war funds? Why is it we talk about getting rid of NPR, PBS, Planned Parenthood, the NEA, and food stamps before calling to attention the exponentially more money wasted on drug [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: TMB</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-36776</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so depressing. But what&#039;s worse are the callous comments by the pro-lifers. Let&#039;s get real. They aren&#039;t pro-women or pro-fetus - if they were, they&#039;d do something about it WAY before babies come into this world. You know, all that stuff about thorough sex education they abhore, the availabity of contraception, and how they turn the other cheek with regards to violence against women and children. 

You want to stop abortions? Start by ending the politicalization of our bodies. Better yet, vagina-havers should stop sleeping with anyone who doesn&#039;t care about female sexual/reproductive health. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so depressing. But what&#8217;s worse are the callous comments by the pro-lifers. Let&#8217;s get real. They aren&#8217;t pro-women or pro-fetus &#8211; if they were, they&#8217;d do something about it WAY before babies come into this world. You know, all that stuff about thorough sex education they abhore, the availabity of contraception, and how they turn the other cheek with regards to violence against women and children. </p>
<p>You want to stop abortions? Start by ending the politicalization of our bodies. Better yet, vagina-havers should stop sleeping with anyone who doesn&#8217;t care about female sexual/reproductive health. </p>
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		<title>By: 4 Disconnected Thoughts &#171; Red Bird Blog</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-36554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[4 Disconnected Thoughts &#171; Red Bird Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] latest story for EcoSalon has made more anti-choice people mad. Against my better judgment I entered into an [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] latest story for EcoSalon has made more anti-choice people mad. Against my better judgment I entered into an [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Libby</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-36520</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi David,
Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts.

I can&#039;t speak for anyone else, but I&#039;m not comfortable with the term pro-life because I think of my own take on abortion as pro-life--the life of the woman rather than the life of the fetus. 

This also ties directly to your statement about the fetus as a living being. There are numerous arguments about when life begins, and I don&#039;t think rehashing those here will do us much good. I firmly believe that the woman facing an unwanted pregnancy--who has undoubtedly been living her life for numerous years--is the one with the right to life, and the right to live that life in the way that is best for her. 

-Libby]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,<br />
Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for anyone else, but I&#8217;m not comfortable with the term pro-life because I think of my own take on abortion as pro-life&#8211;the life of the woman rather than the life of the fetus. </p>
<p>This also ties directly to your statement about the fetus as a living being. There are numerous arguments about when life begins, and I don&#8217;t think rehashing those here will do us much good. I firmly believe that the woman facing an unwanted pregnancy&#8211;who has undoubtedly been living her life for numerous years&#8211;is the one with the right to life, and the right to live that life in the way that is best for her. </p>
<p>-Libby</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Ost</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/barely-legal/#comment-36519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Ost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are not paying for it anyway, and haven&#039;t for decades. No federal dollars go to abortion, ever, period, and that&#039;s the law. It&#039;s been that way for years. This is a myth promoted by the pro-life crowd but it&#039;s inaccurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not paying for it anyway, and haven&#8217;t for decades. No federal dollars go to abortion, ever, period, and that&#8217;s the law. It&#8217;s been that way for years. This is a myth promoted by the pro-life crowd but it&#8217;s inaccurate.</p>
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