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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Cry-It-Out&#8221; iPhone App Makes Me Want to Weep</title>
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		<title>By: Sara Ost</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-33096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Ost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why the need for personal insults? Is there a problem with a writer expressing an opinion when it&#039;s clear that the writer is doing just that, expressing an opinion? Shea isn&#039;t claiming to present an objective summary on the app; she&#039;s sharing her views as a parent. You&#039;re certainly welcome to share yours, but the persuasive impact of your comment didn&#039;t start until &quot;Any technology...&quot;. Shea has just as much right to sharing her opinion as you do sharing yours, and that hardly makes her full of anything but honesty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the need for personal insults? Is there a problem with a writer expressing an opinion when it&#8217;s clear that the writer is doing just that, expressing an opinion? Shea isn&#8217;t claiming to present an objective summary on the app; she&#8217;s sharing her views as a parent. You&#8217;re certainly welcome to share yours, but the persuasive impact of your comment didn&#8217;t start until &#8220;Any technology&#8230;&#8221;. Shea has just as much right to sharing her opinion as you do sharing yours, and that hardly makes her full of anything but honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: leero</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-33090</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was going to try for a balanced response to this article - but why introduce balance at this point?  Clearly Ms. Shea has her diaper in a twist, so let me just say that I think she&#039;s full of poop.  And don&#039;t pee all over an iPhone app just because it supports a sleep technique that you happen to hate.  Your hate has nothing to do with the app - keep your bile where it belongs.  Any technology that helps exhausted parents track their sleep method of choice is valuable - as a new father who has tried Sears, Weissbluth, Ferber, and other techniques, I know that there&#039;s always something that needs tracking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to try for a balanced response to this article &#8211; but why introduce balance at this point?  Clearly Ms. Shea has her diaper in a twist, so let me just say that I think she&#8217;s full of poop.  And don&#8217;t pee all over an iPhone app just because it supports a sleep technique that you happen to hate.  Your hate has nothing to do with the app &#8211; keep your bile where it belongs.  Any technology that helps exhausted parents track their sleep method of choice is valuable &#8211; as a new father who has tried Sears, Weissbluth, Ferber, and other techniques, I know that there&#8217;s always something that needs tracking.</p>
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		<title>By: Damsel</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-31549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Damsel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with this article being a mother of four and I have never let my children cry it out. I do not see what good it does for the child all it does is give parents an excuse to have time to themselves it is a form of neglect on the parents]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with this article being a mother of four and I have never let my children cry it out. I do not see what good it does for the child all it does is give parents an excuse to have time to themselves it is a form of neglect on the parents</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Harper</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-30082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have just found this site and am enjoying it thoroughly, I think most people would agree the App is a ridiculous idea but then we are getting more and more obsessed with technology replacing basic human functions that provide us with exercise, fresh air, creativity and a whole host of other valuable skills that are being lost to some people.  This kind of subject is always going to upset someone and I find even amongst dearest friends parenting styles can cause rifts so I tend to stay off the topic to avoid losing friends.  We all parent differently with different outcomes and I am accused of being a hippy by a large portion of friends because I still breastfeed my 2 1/2 year old daughter and we co-sleep, cuddle her to bed, wear her and have never left her to cry.  Yes I am probably more exhausted as a result but seeing the level of empathy my happy confident child has makes me happy with my decisions.  I am lucky as I share care with my husband which maybe allows me to do this and I have seen how unhappy friends at home with 2 small children are unless they have strict routines and send the toddler off to nursery a few days.  There is an interesting article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314452/Why-cavemen-better-parents-today.html  which will probably stir up more upset but never the less it is interesting if only from a historical view point.  I think as long as every parent is happy and confident with the choices they have made and the outcome then there should not be a problem.  In my personal experience I have found that it seems to be ok to comment on and in some cases mock those that attachment parent but if it goes the other way people get very defensive.  At the end of the day no two children, parents, homes, lifestyles, experiences are the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just found this site and am enjoying it thoroughly, I think most people would agree the App is a ridiculous idea but then we are getting more and more obsessed with technology replacing basic human functions that provide us with exercise, fresh air, creativity and a whole host of other valuable skills that are being lost to some people.  This kind of subject is always going to upset someone and I find even amongst dearest friends parenting styles can cause rifts so I tend to stay off the topic to avoid losing friends.  We all parent differently with different outcomes and I am accused of being a hippy by a large portion of friends because I still breastfeed my 2 1/2 year old daughter and we co-sleep, cuddle her to bed, wear her and have never left her to cry.  Yes I am probably more exhausted as a result but seeing the level of empathy my happy confident child has makes me happy with my decisions.  I am lucky as I share care with my husband which maybe allows me to do this and I have seen how unhappy friends at home with 2 small children are unless they have strict routines and send the toddler off to nursery a few days.  There is an interesting article <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314452/Why-cavemen-better-parents-today.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314452/Why-cavemen-better-parents-today.html</a>  which will probably stir up more upset but never the less it is interesting if only from a historical view point.  I think as long as every parent is happy and confident with the choices they have made and the outcome then there should not be a problem.  In my personal experience I have found that it seems to be ok to comment on and in some cases mock those that attachment parent but if it goes the other way people get very defensive.  At the end of the day no two children, parents, homes, lifestyles, experiences are the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-29603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a fantastic article, no surprise that it has stirred up a bit of controversy. I think when people hear the words &#039;brain damage&#039; they imagine hospitals &#038; medication. The truth is that brain damage caused by the CIO method is so common that the symptoms often go unnoticed, if we tended to our young as nature intended us to maybe we wouldn&#039;t have such an inherently &#039;sick&#039; society with so many emotional issues. Of course babies have different personalities but to use this explanation as a reason to let a helpless infant cry themselves to sleep is both ludicrous and dangerous. There is nothing &#039;holier than thou&#039; about making instinctive choices in parenting, it&#039;s just a shame so many parents have let so-called &#039;intellects&#039; tell them what is right for their child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fantastic article, no surprise that it has stirred up a bit of controversy. I think when people hear the words &#8216;brain damage&#8217; they imagine hospitals &amp; medication. The truth is that brain damage caused by the CIO method is so common that the symptoms often go unnoticed, if we tended to our young as nature intended us to maybe we wouldn&#8217;t have such an inherently &#8216;sick&#8217; society with so many emotional issues. Of course babies have different personalities but to use this explanation as a reason to let a helpless infant cry themselves to sleep is both ludicrous and dangerous. There is nothing &#8216;holier than thou&#8217; about making instinctive choices in parenting, it&#8217;s just a shame so many parents have let so-called &#8216;intellects&#8217; tell them what is right for their child.</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-28844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aimee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...and Kate has the option too... Not reading or replying to your posts if they annoy her.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and Kate has the option too&#8230; Not reading or replying to your posts if they annoy her.  🙂</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda J</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-28513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melinda J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this post! I think that more of us need to openly oppose CIO methods in order to get the idea that they&#039;re OK out of the mainstream. 

Every baby is different, but one thing is the same: they cry to communicate. Our most difficult job as parents is to figure out what they need and never stop offering comfort while doing so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post! I think that more of us need to openly oppose CIO methods in order to get the idea that they&#8217;re OK out of the mainstream. </p>
<p>Every baby is different, but one thing is the same: they cry to communicate. Our most difficult job as parents is to figure out what they need and never stop offering comfort while doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if the baby sleeps 15 min, wakes up cries, settle them then another 15 mins and repeat, never getting enough sleep and becoming over tired, so cries more and more, and also snack feeds more and more...

goignt to help every time seems to have made the period shorter shorter and worse and worse, if it was every hour I would do it maybe even 30 mins, but 15 or 10, no this is helping no one....baby cried regardless of co sleeping or in cot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the baby sleeps 15 min, wakes up cries, settle them then another 15 mins and repeat, never getting enough sleep and becoming over tired, so cries more and more, and also snack feeds more and more&#8230;</p>
<p>goignt to help every time seems to have made the period shorter shorter and worse and worse, if it was every hour I would do it maybe even 30 mins, but 15 or 10, no this is helping no one&#8230;.baby cried regardless of co sleeping or in cot</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-27722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair to Ferber, he wrote an excellent book that will help any parent learn more about how to structure a baby&#039;s life to improve sleep. I bought it in desperation when the &quot;no cry&quot; method wasn&#039;t working and I was being woken EVERY TWO HOURS all night long by my eight month old, plus once or twice by my older child. My baby was also sleeping many hours less than recommended--a health concern. 

Thank god for this book. Ferber doesn&#039;t advocate ignoring at all. The parent is fully engaged with the baby throughout the training, although he thinks allowing some crying is fine. He does equip parents with a wealth of non-bedtime ideas for improving baby&#039;s schedules and sleep rythms. I learned so much that I hadn&#039;t found in other books or in online searches!  I believe strongly in most of the methods of attachment parenting, but sometimes to be available to &quot;attach&quot; a parent needs a good night&#039;s sleep.

This is totally anecdotal, I know, but my first child was not left to CIO. At five, she still needs coddling to sleep and is (and has been) a much less happy child during the day and prone to anxiety. The younger one, who did have to CIO until she learned to sleep, goes to bed happily and is more secure, content, and self confident throughout the day. Probably a matter of personality, but something to consider. Also, I was able to stay home with the younger one and breastfeed her for two years, which I wasn&#039;t able to do with the first. Perhaps that made the difference? Child rearing is a complex thing.

I do agree, though, that the app you describe sounds horrible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to Ferber, he wrote an excellent book that will help any parent learn more about how to structure a baby&#8217;s life to improve sleep. I bought it in desperation when the &#8220;no cry&#8221; method wasn&#8217;t working and I was being woken EVERY TWO HOURS all night long by my eight month old, plus once or twice by my older child. My baby was also sleeping many hours less than recommended&#8211;a health concern. </p>
<p>Thank god for this book. Ferber doesn&#8217;t advocate ignoring at all. The parent is fully engaged with the baby throughout the training, although he thinks allowing some crying is fine. He does equip parents with a wealth of non-bedtime ideas for improving baby&#8217;s schedules and sleep rythms. I learned so much that I hadn&#8217;t found in other books or in online searches!  I believe strongly in most of the methods of attachment parenting, but sometimes to be available to &#8220;attach&#8221; a parent needs a good night&#8217;s sleep.</p>
<p>This is totally anecdotal, I know, but my first child was not left to CIO. At five, she still needs coddling to sleep and is (and has been) a much less happy child during the day and prone to anxiety. The younger one, who did have to CIO until she learned to sleep, goes to bed happily and is more secure, content, and self confident throughout the day. Probably a matter of personality, but something to consider. Also, I was able to stay home with the younger one and breastfeed her for two years, which I wasn&#8217;t able to do with the first. Perhaps that made the difference? Child rearing is a complex thing.</p>
<p>I do agree, though, that the app you describe sounds horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/cry-it-out-iphone-app-makes-me-want-to-weep/#comment-27606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My problem with this article is that you have too many opinion statements scattered among your factual information. You are making arguments for the CIO method among its users, then just as rapidly discounting those arguments. You, as an attachment parent, have no right to lump everyone together when their beliefs differ from your own. 

Every parent is different, just as every child is also different. It&#039;s impossible to raise two kids in the same household the same way when each child has their own personality. 

Let&#039;s just get this out of the way. Is the app ridiculous? Yes, I believe so. But there&#039;s an option you have. Don&#039;t use it. 
Problem solved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with this article is that you have too many opinion statements scattered among your factual information. You are making arguments for the CIO method among its users, then just as rapidly discounting those arguments. You, as an attachment parent, have no right to lump everyone together when their beliefs differ from your own. </p>
<p>Every parent is different, just as every child is also different. It&#8217;s impossible to raise two kids in the same household the same way when each child has their own personality. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just get this out of the way. Is the app ridiculous? Yes, I believe so. But there&#8217;s an option you have. Don&#8217;t use it.<br />
Problem solved.</p>
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