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		<title>By: EcoMeme: Superbowl Ad Controversy &#124; EcoSalon &#124; Conscious Culture &#8230; &#124; Pro Earth Forsyth</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-32845</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kerijberry</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10515</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay - I&#039;m all for free speech.  All sides deserve to be heard, so here&#039;s my 2 cents:

Good for Tim Tebow&#039;s mom - it was her CHOICE not to have an abortion - something that people who are pro-choice (like me) support.  It&#039;s not like I want to force women to have abortions - I just want them to be able to choose what they believe is best for themselves and their families. Grrrr......

Also, hello? Focus on the Family?! How about 2.5 million dollars spent on PREVENTING unwanted pregnancy?!?!  If you want to talk about stopping abortion, you need to talk about PREVENTION.  It ain&#039;t rocket science.   Outlawing is not prevention - it just makes women criminals.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay &#8211; I&#8217;m all for free speech.  All sides deserve to be heard, so here&#8217;s my 2 cents:</p>
<p>Good for Tim Tebow&#8217;s mom &#8211; it was her CHOICE not to have an abortion &#8211; something that people who are pro-choice (like me) support.  It&#8217;s not like I want to force women to have abortions &#8211; I just want them to be able to choose what they believe is best for themselves and their families. Grrrr&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, hello? Focus on the Family?! How about 2.5 million dollars spent on PREVENTING unwanted pregnancy?!?!  If you want to talk about stopping abortion, you need to talk about PREVENTION.  It ain&#8217;t rocket science.   Outlawing is not prevention &#8211; it just makes women criminals&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lora K.</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lora K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Daniel, et al -- Re: CBS and free speech? The network rejected ads for a gay dating site that are well within allowable FCC mandates for content. A post about it via Yahoo! Sports here: 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/CBS-is-fine-with-Tebow-s-pro-life-ad-but-reject?urn=nfl,216642

This is after they claimed that the Tebow ad was ushering in a new era, where they would allow lobbies and different points of view to advertise, though they had shied away from politically and religiously charged content, before. 

Oh well. Corporations and hypocrisy part a hundred billion something!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel, et al &#8212; Re: CBS and free speech? The network rejected ads for a gay dating site that are well within allowable FCC mandates for content. A post about it via Yahoo! Sports here: </p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/CBS-is-fine-with-Tebow-s-pro-life-ad-but-reject?urn=nfl,216642" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/CBS-is-fine-with-Tebow-s-pro-life-ad-but-reject?urn=nfl,216642</a></p>
<p>This is after they claimed that the Tebow ad was ushering in a new era, where they would allow lobbies and different points of view to advertise, though they had shied away from politically and religiously charged content, before. </p>
<p>Oh well. Corporations and hypocrisy part a hundred billion something!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel @ Casual Kitchen</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel @ Casual Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue here is one of free speech, regardless of how repugnant or propagandistic you find the subject matter.  People need to step back and recognize that free speech isn&#039;t just for issues you happen to agree with. 

One other point I&#039;d make is I&#039;m actually impressed by Tebow standing up for his views on an extremely controversial issue, even though I may not agree with him.  Does anybody remember the controversy early on in Michael Jordan&#039;s career as a shoe pitchman for Nike?  He was asked why he didn&#039;t use his celebrity to get involved in what was becoming a racially-tinged Senate race in North Carolina (Jesse Helms vs Harvey Gantt).  He declined, saying &quot;Republicans buy sneakers too.&quot;  

Now that&#039;s cynical. 

Dan @ Casual Kitchen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue here is one of free speech, regardless of how repugnant or propagandistic you find the subject matter.  People need to step back and recognize that free speech isn&#8217;t just for issues you happen to agree with. </p>
<p>One other point I&#8217;d make is I&#8217;m actually impressed by Tebow standing up for his views on an extremely controversial issue, even though I may not agree with him.  Does anybody remember the controversy early on in Michael Jordan&#8217;s career as a shoe pitchman for Nike?  He was asked why he didn&#8217;t use his celebrity to get involved in what was becoming a racially-tinged Senate race in North Carolina (Jesse Helms vs Harvey Gantt).  He declined, saying &#8220;Republicans buy sneakers too.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s cynical. </p>
<p>Dan @ Casual Kitchen</p>
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		<title>By: Link Loving 29 "¢ 01 "¢ 2010 &#124; Red Headed Frog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &quot;¢ Interesting perspective on the controversial ad run on Super Bowl Sunday by the conservative American Christian group via EcoSalon. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;¢ Interesting perspective on the controversial ad run on Super Bowl Sunday by the conservative American Christian group via EcoSalon. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Murphy</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest obstacle we face in changing attitudes toward overpopulation is economists.  Since the field of economics was branded &quot;the dismal science&quot; after Malthus&#039; theory, economists have been adamant that they would never again consider the subject of overpopulation and continue to insist that man is ingenious enough to overcome any obstacle to further growth.  Even worse, economists insist that population growth is vital to economic growth.  This is why world leaders continue to ignore population growth in the face of mounting challenges like peak oil, global warming and a whole host of other environmental and resource issues.  

But because they are blind to population growth, there&#039;s one obstacle they haven&#039;t considered:  the finiteness of space available on earth.  The very act of using space more efficiently creates a problem for which there is no solution:  it inevitably begins to drive down per capita consumption and, consequently, per capita employment, leading to rising unemployment and poverty.  

If you&quot;˜re interested in learning more about this important new economic theory, then I invite you to visit my web site at http://PeteMurphy.wordpress.com. 

Pete Murphy
Author, &quot;Five Short Blasts&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest obstacle we face in changing attitudes toward overpopulation is economists.  Since the field of economics was branded &#8220;the dismal science&#8221; after Malthus&#8217; theory, economists have been adamant that they would never again consider the subject of overpopulation and continue to insist that man is ingenious enough to overcome any obstacle to further growth.  Even worse, economists insist that population growth is vital to economic growth.  This is why world leaders continue to ignore population growth in the face of mounting challenges like peak oil, global warming and a whole host of other environmental and resource issues.  </p>
<p>But because they are blind to population growth, there&#8217;s one obstacle they haven&#8217;t considered:  the finiteness of space available on earth.  The very act of using space more efficiently creates a problem for which there is no solution:  it inevitably begins to drive down per capita consumption and, consequently, per capita employment, leading to rising unemployment and poverty.  </p>
<p>If you&#8221;˜re interested in learning more about this important new economic theory, then I invite you to visit my web site at <a href="http://PeteMurphy.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://PeteMurphy.wordpress.com</a>. </p>
<p>Pete Murphy<br />
Author, &#8220;Five Short Blasts&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10351</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A much closer issue to me at the moment is not only the resistance to abortion, but resistance to HOW a woman can have birth, and her choices during pregnancy. You can be court-ordered to be imprisoned in the hospital. Your insurance will not cover an &#039;elective&#039; c-section even when medical journals agree that the procedure is less risky to both mother and child than &#039;natural&#039; childbirth (possible risks of C-section are to the woman&#039;s future *fertility*, not to the health of mother or child). 

Sound barbaric? Are we simply threatened by science over-taking &#039;nature&#039;?
The next time you pull out an umbrella to shield yourself from sleet or hail, perhaps you should consider the advantages of a &#039;natural&#039; walk home, and follow that with a natural endurance of your consequent illness without the aid of modern medicine.

Superbowl mom had the choice to carry her child to term despite risks because our society is more pro-fetus than pro-woman, which was not the case throughout much of history. More devastating than overpopulation or the termination of a fetus who may or may not be considered to have begun life, are the stories of unwanted and abused children in CPS. Superbowl mom&#039;s child grew up to be pro-football. Others end like Nixmary. 

If we have to watch a PSA during the superbowl, what could be more appropriate, given its audience, than the issue of violence against women. That includes violence perpetrated by doctors and insurance companies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A much closer issue to me at the moment is not only the resistance to abortion, but resistance to HOW a woman can have birth, and her choices during pregnancy. You can be court-ordered to be imprisoned in the hospital. Your insurance will not cover an &#8216;elective&#8217; c-section even when medical journals agree that the procedure is less risky to both mother and child than &#8216;natural&#8217; childbirth (possible risks of C-section are to the woman&#8217;s future *fertility*, not to the health of mother or child). </p>
<p>Sound barbaric? Are we simply threatened by science over-taking &#8216;nature&#8217;?<br />
The next time you pull out an umbrella to shield yourself from sleet or hail, perhaps you should consider the advantages of a &#8216;natural&#8217; walk home, and follow that with a natural endurance of your consequent illness without the aid of modern medicine.</p>
<p>Superbowl mom had the choice to carry her child to term despite risks because our society is more pro-fetus than pro-woman, which was not the case throughout much of history. More devastating than overpopulation or the termination of a fetus who may or may not be considered to have begun life, are the stories of unwanted and abused children in CPS. Superbowl mom&#8217;s child grew up to be pro-football. Others end like Nixmary. </p>
<p>If we have to watch a PSA during the superbowl, what could be more appropriate, given its audience, than the issue of violence against women. That includes violence perpetrated by doctors and insurance companies.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Renae - Renae, LK is right. I meant that all commercials, in one way or another, are produced to push you, the viewer, into thinking or believing the message that they spent hours upon hours crafting - in essence, propaganda.

I didn&#039;t mean this blog post was propaganda (if that&#039;s what you were referring to) ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Renae &#8211; Renae, LK is right. I meant that all commercials, in one way or another, are produced to push you, the viewer, into thinking or believing the message that they spent hours upon hours crafting &#8211; in essence, propaganda.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean this blog post was propaganda (if that&#8217;s what you were referring to) 😉</p>
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		<title>By: Lora K.</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lora K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Renae - trying to keep it positive, limit name calling to just jokes, here. 

I think the person&#039;s point above (see @JF) was that all commercials are pushing an agenda of some sort. 

Would appreciate your thoughts about why you like the ad in question, or ads in general though. 

I&#039;ve personally watched the SuperBowl with greater interest in the ads than in the games, which typically have about 13 minutes of actual ball-in-play time. I just really don&#039;t know if SuperBowl Sunday is my favorite time to consider this profound issue. 

Or to deal with the clash of my diverse group of friends&#039; points of views on it either. . . 

Hoping no fights ensue!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Renae &#8211; trying to keep it positive, limit name calling to just jokes, here. </p>
<p>I think the person&#8217;s point above (see @JF) was that all commercials are pushing an agenda of some sort. </p>
<p>Would appreciate your thoughts about why you like the ad in question, or ads in general though. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve personally watched the SuperBowl with greater interest in the ads than in the games, which typically have about 13 minutes of actual ball-in-play time. I just really don&#8217;t know if SuperBowl Sunday is my favorite time to consider this profound issue. </p>
<p>Or to deal with the clash of my diverse group of friends&#8217; points of views on it either. . . </p>
<p>Hoping no fights ensue!</p>
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		<title>By: Renae</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/ecomeme-superbowl-ad-controversy/#comment-10330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Renae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you call this propaganda, don&#039;t just give me a side dish - give me 2 heaping platefuls!!!!!   jerks....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you call this propaganda, don&#8217;t just give me a side dish &#8211; give me 2 heaping platefuls!!!!!   jerks&#8230;.</p>
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