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		<title>By: Advice for riding transit at night alone &#171; Be A Green Commuter Home</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-don%e2%80%99t-women-feel-safe-riding-public-transit/#comment-25192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Advice for riding transit at night alone &#171; Be A Green Commuter Home]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UCLA professor Anastasia Loukaitou-Sideris recently published a study which found that women were much more scared simply waiting at the bus stop or the transit station than on a transit... I ask myself whether I would feel safe walking to/from or waiting for transit. And if the answer is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] UCLA professor Anastasia Loukaitou-Sideris recently published a study which found that women were much more scared simply waiting at the bus stop or the transit station than on a transit&#8230; I ask myself whether I would feel safe walking to/from or waiting for transit. And if the answer is [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: ED-209</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-don%e2%80%99t-women-feel-safe-riding-public-transit/#comment-24227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ED-209]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One reason why I feel that women feel vulnerable on public transit, at least here in Toronto, is the announcements for the Request Stop Program. While the program is useful in theory (it allows women traveling on buses alone late at night to ask the driver to let them off in-between stops), the announcements that remind riders that such a program exists are often heard on subway platforms. Why this is part of the problem than the solution goes like this:

Say you&#039;re a person on a ttc platform late at night, minding your own business, and say there might be another person on the other end of the platform, minding his business. You feel calm, there&#039;s nothing to be afraid of. Then this announcement comes on, informing you of this service, but what your brain hears is, &quot;If you are a woman, please remember that you are in constant danger of being raped to death, on any bus, at any time, and maybe even by THAT GUY RIGHT OVER THERE!&quot; 
 
It&#039;s living in a constant state of fear and victimhood, of  this paranoia culture that strips us of our own agency. We demand that the powers that be take our security into their hands, and we&#039;ve accepted that the constant threat is normal and expected. There doesn&#039;t have to be an actual threat at hand in order for us to feel afraid. 

Most guys aren&#039;t out to rape you- they&#039;re just trying to get home, just like you. But then an announcement like that comes on, and suddenly you&#039;re a victim in his eyes. A victim who for some reason is being granted privileges that are denied to him because he is a man (what if he was wanted to be let off in-between stops? Would they let him?) 

This weird inequality where women are under constant threat and there&#039;s nothing they can do about it because it&#039;s just the way it is is probably responsible for far more fear than any actual crime statistics. The rapist lurking in the tunnels and the bushes is just a myth- you are far more likely to be attacked by your boyfriend, your boss, your teacher, your friend, your neighbour, your husband, instances that don&#039;t get reported because the victim herself probably doesn&#039;t understand what happened to her. When it&#039;s someone you trust, you probably convince yourself it&#039;s okay, and project the real &quot;bad guys&quot; as the bogeymen lurking in public places at night. 

Take a look around yourself and realize that you own that territory, you own the night as much as any stalker or mugger. You are not a lost lamb in a dark and scary world. They are encroaching on your territory, and there&#039;s no reason to be afraid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason why I feel that women feel vulnerable on public transit, at least here in Toronto, is the announcements for the Request Stop Program. While the program is useful in theory (it allows women traveling on buses alone late at night to ask the driver to let them off in-between stops), the announcements that remind riders that such a program exists are often heard on subway platforms. Why this is part of the problem than the solution goes like this:</p>
<p>Say you&#8217;re a person on a ttc platform late at night, minding your own business, and say there might be another person on the other end of the platform, minding his business. You feel calm, there&#8217;s nothing to be afraid of. Then this announcement comes on, informing you of this service, but what your brain hears is, &#8220;If you are a woman, please remember that you are in constant danger of being raped to death, on any bus, at any time, and maybe even by THAT GUY RIGHT OVER THERE!&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s living in a constant state of fear and victimhood, of  this paranoia culture that strips us of our own agency. We demand that the powers that be take our security into their hands, and we&#8217;ve accepted that the constant threat is normal and expected. There doesn&#8217;t have to be an actual threat at hand in order for us to feel afraid. </p>
<p>Most guys aren&#8217;t out to rape you- they&#8217;re just trying to get home, just like you. But then an announcement like that comes on, and suddenly you&#8217;re a victim in his eyes. A victim who for some reason is being granted privileges that are denied to him because he is a man (what if he was wanted to be let off in-between stops? Would they let him?) </p>
<p>This weird inequality where women are under constant threat and there&#8217;s nothing they can do about it because it&#8217;s just the way it is is probably responsible for far more fear than any actual crime statistics. The rapist lurking in the tunnels and the bushes is just a myth- you are far more likely to be attacked by your boyfriend, your boss, your teacher, your friend, your neighbour, your husband, instances that don&#8217;t get reported because the victim herself probably doesn&#8217;t understand what happened to her. When it&#8217;s someone you trust, you probably convince yourself it&#8217;s okay, and project the real &#8220;bad guys&#8221; as the bogeymen lurking in public places at night. </p>
<p>Take a look around yourself and realize that you own that territory, you own the night as much as any stalker or mugger. You are not a lost lamb in a dark and scary world. They are encroaching on your territory, and there&#8217;s no reason to be afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: jjj</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-don%e2%80%99t-women-feel-safe-riding-public-transit/#comment-13687</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know that if I&#039;m going out late and taking the transit home - COVER UP! bring a big sweater or jacket and wear pants. Don&#039;t &#039;do it up&#039; do it &#039;down.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that if I&#8217;m going out late and taking the transit home &#8211; COVER UP! bring a big sweater or jacket and wear pants. Don&#8217;t &#8216;do it up&#8217; do it &#8216;down.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: bonno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bonno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DUDE! I&#039;m a guy and I get scared when using public transport at night. Hobos jackin off and other weird stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DUDE! I&#8217;m a guy and I get scared when using public transport at night. Hobos jackin off and other weird stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Rogers</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-don%e2%80%99t-women-feel-safe-riding-public-transit/#comment-12359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Barcelona metro was the scariest for me, but when I rode the buses in Rome I got groped several times - by men in SUITS! Respectable looking dudes that you totally wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of behavior from. 

Here in Asheville, it&#039;s not so bad, however - the buses (unfortunately) don&#039;t even run at night, so there&#039;s not a whole lot of opportunity to feel creeped out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Barcelona metro was the scariest for me, but when I rode the buses in Rome I got groped several times &#8211; by men in SUITS! Respectable looking dudes that you totally wouldn&#8217;t expect that sort of behavior from. </p>
<p>Here in Asheville, it&#8217;s not so bad, however &#8211; the buses (unfortunately) don&#8217;t even run at night, so there&#8217;s not a whole lot of opportunity to feel creeped out.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-don%e2%80%99t-women-feel-safe-riding-public-transit/#comment-12286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have lived in China, Korea and London and never felt unsafe on public transport. Asian countries in particular seem very secure and non-threatening, and London&#039;s metro system is heavily policed, with CCTV etc.

Contrast this with Brussels, where I now live. The metro has no barriers to stop people without tickets getting down onto the platform. This means that all kinds of unsavoury types lurk within the metro system. Plus the stations are dimly lit, sparsely policed, and can become quite scary at times!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived in China, Korea and London and never felt unsafe on public transport. Asian countries in particular seem very secure and non-threatening, and London&#8217;s metro system is heavily policed, with CCTV etc.</p>
<p>Contrast this with Brussels, where I now live. The metro has no barriers to stop people without tickets getting down onto the platform. This means that all kinds of unsavoury types lurk within the metro system. Plus the stations are dimly lit, sparsely policed, and can become quite scary at times!</p>
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		<title>By: Luanne</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-don%e2%80%99t-women-feel-safe-riding-public-transit/#comment-12270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luanne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caitlin, in the event of being in the wild and having encounters with crocodiles, snakes, big dogs, lions and tigers and bears, it is very good to have men around. I&#039;m all for it. As you point out, they also are helpful on airplanes, during a cancer diagnosis, tsunami waves or buildings collapsing in an earthquake. Love men then as well. Especially big men with perhaps weapons or emergency supplies. During a tsunami, I like men who can run very fast and prop me up on their shoulders because I get tired outrunning large waves. None of my women friends can lift me. 

Sadly, the crazy ones make it scary to be alone at night even in so-called &quot;safe&quot; hoods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caitlin, in the event of being in the wild and having encounters with crocodiles, snakes, big dogs, lions and tigers and bears, it is very good to have men around. I&#8217;m all for it. As you point out, they also are helpful on airplanes, during a cancer diagnosis, tsunami waves or buildings collapsing in an earthquake. Love men then as well. Especially big men with perhaps weapons or emergency supplies. During a tsunami, I like men who can run very fast and prop me up on their shoulders because I get tired outrunning large waves. None of my women friends can lift me. </p>
<p>Sadly, the crazy ones make it scary to be alone at night even in so-called &#8220;safe&#8221; hoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caitlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Luanne Only one reason, eh? No need to feel unsafe about encounters in the wild with crocodiles, snakes, big dogs, lions and tigers and bears... turbulence or engine failure in a plane .... a cancer diagnosis ... or tsunami waves or buildings collapsing in an earthquake  ... the list goes on! :-)

(None of this is intended to diminish the legitimate fears of women about violence from men).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Luanne Only one reason, eh? No need to feel unsafe about encounters in the wild with crocodiles, snakes, big dogs, lions and tigers and bears&#8230; turbulence or engine failure in a plane &#8230;. a cancer diagnosis &#8230; or tsunami waves or buildings collapsing in an earthquake  &#8230; the list goes on! 🙂</p>
<p>(None of this is intended to diminish the legitimate fears of women about violence from men).</p>
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		<title>By: Carla &#124; Green and Chic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carla &#124; Green and Chic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why I tend shy away from public transportation at night in general. Of course there were times when I didn&#039;t have much of a choice, like when I worked market hours (on the west coast) and had to be at the office at 5:00 or 6:00Am or just being out late.  Driving wasn&#039;t an option simply due to the fact that parking in downtown San Francisco was $35/day.

I definitely don&#039;t think the needs are being met in terms of safety for women, the elderly, disabled, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I tend shy away from public transportation at night in general. Of course there were times when I didn&#8217;t have much of a choice, like when I worked market hours (on the west coast) and had to be at the office at 5:00 or 6:00Am or just being out late.  Driving wasn&#8217;t an option simply due to the fact that parking in downtown San Francisco was $35/day.</p>
<p>I definitely don&#8217;t think the needs are being met in terms of safety for women, the elderly, disabled, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Luanne Bradley</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-don%e2%80%99t-women-feel-safe-riding-public-transit/#comment-12202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luanne Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is only one reason women don&#039;t feel safe at any given time at any given place, from the rails to the suburbs to the Middle East. Men.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one reason women don&#8217;t feel safe at any given time at any given place, from the rails to the suburbs to the Middle East. Men.</p>
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