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		<title>By: Bombarded by Stupidity: The Easy Access to a Framework of Purity &#124; Have I Convinced You Yet?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sexualized. Who told her that was okay? Is it ok? Where was her mother? (She was at the Starbucks. She got a Grande non-fat vanilla latte.) I would have loved to have a little parental chat with her. But who am I to lecture a parent who [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] sexualized. Who told her that was okay? Is it ok? Where was her mother? (She was at the Starbucks. She got a Grande non-fat vanilla latte.) I would have loved to have a little parental chat with her. But who am I to lecture a parent who [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ahad Mir Blog post-COMS 369 &#124; Have I Convinced You Yet?</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-65718</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sexualized. Who told her that was okay? Is it ok? Where was her mother? (She was at the Starbucks. She got a Grande non-fat vanilla latte.) I would have loved to have a little parental chat with her. But who am I to lecture a parent who [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] sexualized. Who told her that was okay? Is it ok? Where was her mother? (She was at the Starbucks. She got a Grande non-fat vanilla latte.) I would have loved to have a little parental chat with her. But who am I to lecture a parent who [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Turner - Planwise</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-46117</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi - I&#039;d love to see a follow up to this post.. it&#039;s 3 years later and so many of the things mentioned here have changed. Big organisations do take ages to react / change course... I think the sheer scale can make it hard. I remember reading about when McDonalds wanted to introduce apple in a bag and it took them years.. and they over night became the largest single purchaser of apples in the US ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; I&#8217;d love to see a follow up to this post.. it&#8217;s 3 years later and so many of the things mentioned here have changed. Big organisations do take ages to react / change course&#8230; I think the sheer scale can make it hard. I remember reading about when McDonalds wanted to introduce apple in a bag and it took them years.. and they over night became the largest single purchaser of apples in the US &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Day 08 &#8211; 10 things we don’t know about you &#171; The Mystic District</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-36691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Day 08 &#8211; 10 things we don’t know about you &#171; The Mystic District]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 16:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 10. I drink 3/4ths of a pot of black coffee every morning. I buy one 33 oz. can of Yuban coffee every two weeks for $10.99. Suck it, Starbucks. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 10. I drink 3/4ths of a pot of black coffee every morning. I buy one 33 oz. can of Yuban coffee every two weeks for $10.99. Suck it, Starbucks. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Starbucks at 40 &#171; NotionsCapital</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-35820</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Ten Worst Legacies of Starbucks.&#8221; Go to the blogosphere to get the full 17,000-item Trenta-sized [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ten Worst Legacies of Starbucks.&#8221; Go to the blogosphere to get the full 17,000-item Trenta-sized [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: David Wayne</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-35604</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had to chalk up my cue stick 7 months later just to demonstrate that my hatred for the sleezepit corpo dung heap is not a fleeting thing. I have something that should be considered for #10. You will not get a straight or truthful answer from anyone in their chain of command(like that is something new). Ask them how many dead dried monkeys they have fished out of their coffee containers.That is not a joke. They have a bad problem with monkeys climbing into the conex boxes at the ports when they pack the pallets of coffee for shipment. After a few days the poor monkeys without food or water climb on top off the stacks of coffee beans and die. I stopped drinking their coffee after they talked about that during one of our training classes. The thought that the special disgusting flavor of their coffee might be essence of dead monkey grossed me out.Believe me you do not want to drink anything that came from under a dead dried monkey carcus. 
         That is not the most disgusting thing I have seen or heard about that bunch. I refuse to talk about the other thing I sawwhile working there. I get nausea if I think about it. I do not let my family members go there,but I have never had a problem with any of them going there.If they decided on the spur of the moment to stop in I would try to stop them. If they went anyway I would monitor them for a few days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to chalk up my cue stick 7 months later just to demonstrate that my hatred for the sleezepit corpo dung heap is not a fleeting thing. I have something that should be considered for #10. You will not get a straight or truthful answer from anyone in their chain of command(like that is something new). Ask them how many dead dried monkeys they have fished out of their coffee containers.That is not a joke. They have a bad problem with monkeys climbing into the conex boxes at the ports when they pack the pallets of coffee for shipment. After a few days the poor monkeys without food or water climb on top off the stacks of coffee beans and die. I stopped drinking their coffee after they talked about that during one of our training classes. The thought that the special disgusting flavor of their coffee might be essence of dead monkey grossed me out.Believe me you do not want to drink anything that came from under a dead dried monkey carcus.<br />
         That is not the most disgusting thing I have seen or heard about that bunch. I refuse to talk about the other thing I sawwhile working there. I get nausea if I think about it. I do not let my family members go there,but I have never had a problem with any of them going there.If they decided on the spur of the moment to stop in I would try to stop them. If they went anyway I would monitor them for a few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Lee</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-27541</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ ROBB face it.......American will never stop drinking coffee, and we will always love it. If your so worried about the environment, why don&#039;t you not eat anything and live in a recycled cardboard box to help the world. Seriously.....EVERY SINGLE thing you use on a day to day basis harms the environment. Drinking one less cup of coffee isn&#039;t gonna stop the world from global warming now is it? How about beef and other crops you eat? It has to be all grown on a farm, and watered, and shipped to your local supermarket. If everyone thought like you, we might as well not live anymore and chuck ourselves off of a giant cliff...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ROBB face it&#8230;&#8230;.American will never stop drinking coffee, and we will always love it. If your so worried about the environment, why don&#8217;t you not eat anything and live in a recycled cardboard box to help the world. Seriously&#8230;..EVERY SINGLE thing you use on a day to day basis harms the environment. Drinking one less cup of coffee isn&#8217;t gonna stop the world from global warming now is it? How about beef and other crops you eat? It has to be all grown on a farm, and watered, and shipped to your local supermarket. If everyone thought like you, we might as well not live anymore and chuck ourselves off of a giant cliff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Wayne</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-26617</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My hatred for Starbucks runs far deeper than some enviro concept they may be violating. I hate them because of the way they lie to and cheat their employees. They are the biggest deadbeats in the corporate world yet they live a lie of false fairness every day. One bare faced lie they tell/told over and over was the coffee they provided to the troops overseas. They did not give one pound of coffee to anyone. The employees get a pound a week called mark off. Their supervisors came around and brow beat them out of their pound so the corpo deadbeats could ride that lie. Another thing is the free community service. After standing beside their 500 degreeF roasting machines for a 12 hour shift on concrete floors ...the last thing I feel like doing is going to a nearby park and pulling weeds and providing free landscaping service. On top of that I am allergic to bee stings. I have almost died twice from bee stings. Makes no difference in their eyes I was a no good bum because I would not risk my life for free on MY off time. The 3rd but just one in many reasons I loathe this bunch of losers is the retirement plan they don&#039;t have. After working there for a year or so they used to give a one percent match to a sort of 401k plan they had. Now they don&#039;t match anything. They will take your funds and use them for free if you let them ,but unlike most companies in the USA they will not match a dime. They also do not do an annual raise. They will quickly tell you DUHHHH We just don&#039;t do that anymore....DUHHHH!!!!They lie like other people breathe....and double dog dare you to call them on it. I told them 3 times..THREE ...33333...TREY times that I SMOKE !!!!! I SMOKE!!!!!! I SMOKE!!!!!!!! Not a problem dude...No problem ...we have an area in our break area for smokers....The first day of training the lil rug munchie lesbo HR team nazi tells me they are going to be a TOBACCO FREE CAMPUS after the first of the year. They will just send me to the doctor and give me a shot that will make me stop smoking. Not to worry that 5000 people that have taken the majic shot have commited suicide. What about me telling you THREE TIMES THAT I SMOKE and it was not a problem..&quot;Well I don&#039;t know anything about that but if you smoke after the first you will be terminated&quot;....The fact that I took a urine test and completely disclosed the fact that I have fused discs in my spine and I take a pain med some times did not go unchallenged. Their corpo doc was fine with that,but that did not stop their lil training munchkin from screaming at me in a class room full of my peers that you look like some kind of &quot;DOPE FIEND !!!! &quot; YEP !!!!! You look like you are HIGH ON DRUGS!!!! I stood up and screamed back. I will be glad to pee in any cup you have!!!! I started packing my training manuals and getting my study materials together when she ran over and asked what I was doing. I told her I was going to go get a drug screen. She immediately told me to sit down and forget about it. I said Oh no....you want to make those kind of allegations against me in public in front of my coworkers...I&#039;m going to give you a chance to back them up. She again told me to sit down and forget about it. ...How fair is it to read someones personal records then come to a public forum and chastise them that way? That is typical Starbucks style. I finally got to the point one day that I just packed up and left. To Hell  with them all!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hatred for Starbucks runs far deeper than some enviro concept they may be violating. I hate them because of the way they lie to and cheat their employees. They are the biggest deadbeats in the corporate world yet they live a lie of false fairness every day. One bare faced lie they tell/told over and over was the coffee they provided to the troops overseas. They did not give one pound of coffee to anyone. The employees get a pound a week called mark off. Their supervisors came around and brow beat them out of their pound so the corpo deadbeats could ride that lie. Another thing is the free community service. After standing beside their 500 degreeF roasting machines for a 12 hour shift on concrete floors &#8230;the last thing I feel like doing is going to a nearby park and pulling weeds and providing free landscaping service. On top of that I am allergic to bee stings. I have almost died twice from bee stings. Makes no difference in their eyes I was a no good bum because I would not risk my life for free on MY off time. The 3rd but just one in many reasons I loathe this bunch of losers is the retirement plan they don&#8217;t have. After working there for a year or so they used to give a one percent match to a sort of 401k plan they had. Now they don&#8217;t match anything. They will take your funds and use them for free if you let them ,but unlike most companies in the USA they will not match a dime. They also do not do an annual raise. They will quickly tell you DUHHHH We just don&#8217;t do that anymore&#8230;.DUHHHH!!!!They lie like other people breathe&#8230;.and double dog dare you to call them on it. I told them 3 times..THREE &#8230;33333&#8230;TREY times that I SMOKE !!!!! I SMOKE!!!!!! I SMOKE!!!!!!!! Not a problem dude&#8230;No problem &#8230;we have an area in our break area for smokers&#8230;.The first day of training the lil rug munchie lesbo HR team nazi tells me they are going to be a TOBACCO FREE CAMPUS after the first of the year. They will just send me to the doctor and give me a shot that will make me stop smoking. Not to worry that 5000 people that have taken the majic shot have commited suicide. What about me telling you THREE TIMES THAT I SMOKE and it was not a problem..&#8221;Well I don&#8217;t know anything about that but if you smoke after the first you will be terminated&#8221;&#8230;.The fact that I took a urine test and completely disclosed the fact that I have fused discs in my spine and I take a pain med some times did not go unchallenged. Their corpo doc was fine with that,but that did not stop their lil training munchkin from screaming at me in a class room full of my peers that you look like some kind of &#8220;DOPE FIEND !!!! &#8221; YEP !!!!! You look like you are HIGH ON DRUGS!!!! I stood up and screamed back. I will be glad to pee in any cup you have!!!! I started packing my training manuals and getting my study materials together when she ran over and asked what I was doing. I told her I was going to go get a drug screen. She immediately told me to sit down and forget about it. I said Oh no&#8230;.you want to make those kind of allegations against me in public in front of my coworkers&#8230;I&#8217;m going to give you a chance to back them up. She again told me to sit down and forget about it. &#8230;How fair is it to read someones personal records then come to a public forum and chastise them that way? That is typical Starbucks style. I finally got to the point one day that I just packed up and left. To Hell  with them all!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: YourPlanetIsAToilet</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-24981</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to make you wrong about that... &quot;9 Reasons to Stay Out of Starbucks&quot;. I&#039;m about to give you reason NUMBER 10 and it isn&#039;t pretty.
Now, many of you might recall about a year and a half ago, the EFF (Electronic Freedom Foundation) filed suit in federal court against AT&#038;T regarding their pact (contract) with Satan... in the form of the spyware they WILLINGLY maintain for the NSA (National Security Agency) to spy on all AT&#038;T Wifi traffic. That means you the Amerikan citizen. The suit was well publicized, however dismissed by some federal (career-minded judge) that dismissed on the feds motion to preserve &quot;national security&quot; (Adolph Hitler&#039;s old ploy)
Well, let&#039;s move forward to last Sunday, June 27, 2010, approx. 12:00. In case any of you were wondering why the AT&#038;T hotspots were down at Starbucks FOR NEARLY 8 1/2 HOURS, it was NOT because of AT&#038;T&#039;s typically crappy service (this time). After making many numerous phone calls I eventually reached a mid-level AT&#038;T tech who informed me that it was in no way an internal AT&#038;T server problem The problem was the software link to the NSA was broken and that automatically disallowed any web traffic at all from AT&#038;T hotspots (i.e. STARBUCKS!) because if the NSA was unable, for any reason, to monitor and filter web traffic the software shuts down the entire link. How nice is that? The Starbucks Wifi finally came back on at 8:13 PM.
Ok, so I&#039;M not a terrorist e-mailing for some rockets to get mailed from Pakistan to LA or something, but how about other (so-assumed) private matters, like e-mails from cheaters sent to their mistresses or lovers? How about sensitive e-mails communications to your secret offshore banks?
Needless to mention further, Starbucks is clearly aiding and abetting this sorry situation and customers have a right to know that using Starbucks/AT&#038;T is NOT safe at all.
Free wireless, don&#039;t bet on that one? I hope no one is forgetting that nothing in life is really free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to make you wrong about that&#8230; &#8220;9 Reasons to Stay Out of Starbucks&#8221;. I&#8217;m about to give you reason NUMBER 10 and it isn&#8217;t pretty.<br />
Now, many of you might recall about a year and a half ago, the EFF (Electronic Freedom Foundation) filed suit in federal court against AT&amp;T regarding their pact (contract) with Satan&#8230; in the form of the spyware they WILLINGLY maintain for the NSA (National Security Agency) to spy on all AT&amp;T Wifi traffic. That means you the Amerikan citizen. The suit was well publicized, however dismissed by some federal (career-minded judge) that dismissed on the feds motion to preserve &#8220;national security&#8221; (Adolph Hitler&#8217;s old ploy)<br />
Well, let&#8217;s move forward to last Sunday, June 27, 2010, approx. 12:00. In case any of you were wondering why the AT&amp;T hotspots were down at Starbucks FOR NEARLY 8 1/2 HOURS, it was NOT because of AT&amp;T&#8217;s typically crappy service (this time). After making many numerous phone calls I eventually reached a mid-level AT&amp;T tech who informed me that it was in no way an internal AT&amp;T server problem The problem was the software link to the NSA was broken and that automatically disallowed any web traffic at all from AT&amp;T hotspots (i.e. STARBUCKS!) because if the NSA was unable, for any reason, to monitor and filter web traffic the software shuts down the entire link. How nice is that? The Starbucks Wifi finally came back on at 8:13 PM.<br />
Ok, so I&#8217;M not a terrorist e-mailing for some rockets to get mailed from Pakistan to LA or something, but how about other (so-assumed) private matters, like e-mails from cheaters sent to their mistresses or lovers? How about sensitive e-mails communications to your secret offshore banks?<br />
Needless to mention further, Starbucks is clearly aiding and abetting this sorry situation and customers have a right to know that using Starbucks/AT&amp;T is NOT safe at all.<br />
Free wireless, don&#8217;t bet on that one? I hope no one is forgetting that nothing in life is really free.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>https://ecosalon.com/why-starbucks-sucks/#comment-23295</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off y&#039;all might consider thinking about what y&#039;all are saying b4 y&#039;all say it cause most of y&#039;all r just stupid. Has starbucks changed over the years, of course, so has what ppl wear, what type of music is popular, the types of food commonly eaten, what&#039;s on tv and the movies have changed. And going to the starbucks in your small town does help it&#039;s economy because the partners at that store rely on that store continuing to be open and tips which they spend at that town. I&#039;m a shift supervisor and guess what, we don&#039;t make that much more than baristas, that&#039;s why we also get tips, that, and this whole site is just a  big example as to why the west coast is so fucked up. Yeah we prevented Ethiopia from claiming that coffee, we pay the farmers much better too. Let&#039;s face it, Ethiopia isn&#039;t exactly known for it&#039;s advances in human rights. As far as the fair trade comment, the price of having a coffee certified as fair trade in America is a lot more than it is in the uk.

While this country is seeing more and more of it&#039;s companies outsource to other countries to escape taxes or find cheaper labor, y&#039;all attack an American company that remains in the U.S. And employs a couple hundred thousand employees, stop being selfish, this country doesn&#039;t need your can&#039;t do and why me and tattle-tale attitudes(if you hear something bad happen, don&#039;t bitch about it for 6 months, work to fix it) much of this country is unemployed and the ones that want to work know that a crappy job still brings in a paycheck.

I&#039;d say find something better to do with your time but since y&#039;all might think to have children I won&#039;t, cause if you r this messed up, I can&#039;t imagine how you&#039;ll raise your kids]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off y&#8217;all might consider thinking about what y&#8217;all are saying b4 y&#8217;all say it cause most of y&#8217;all r just stupid. Has starbucks changed over the years, of course, so has what ppl wear, what type of music is popular, the types of food commonly eaten, what&#8217;s on tv and the movies have changed. And going to the starbucks in your small town does help it&#8217;s economy because the partners at that store rely on that store continuing to be open and tips which they spend at that town. I&#8217;m a shift supervisor and guess what, we don&#8217;t make that much more than baristas, that&#8217;s why we also get tips, that, and this whole site is just a  big example as to why the west coast is so fucked up. Yeah we prevented Ethiopia from claiming that coffee, we pay the farmers much better too. Let&#8217;s face it, Ethiopia isn&#8217;t exactly known for it&#8217;s advances in human rights. As far as the fair trade comment, the price of having a coffee certified as fair trade in America is a lot more than it is in the uk.</p>
<p>While this country is seeing more and more of it&#8217;s companies outsource to other countries to escape taxes or find cheaper labor, y&#8217;all attack an American company that remains in the U.S. And employs a couple hundred thousand employees, stop being selfish, this country doesn&#8217;t need your can&#8217;t do and why me and tattle-tale attitudes(if you hear something bad happen, don&#8217;t bitch about it for 6 months, work to fix it) much of this country is unemployed and the ones that want to work know that a crappy job still brings in a paycheck.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say find something better to do with your time but since y&#8217;all might think to have children I won&#8217;t, cause if you r this messed up, I can&#8217;t imagine how you&#8217;ll raise your kids</p>
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